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Discussion: Brahms: Concerto for Violin, Cello & Orchestra - Wildner

Posts: 5

Post by brenda June 21, 2005 (1 of 5)
Audiofriend in his review thought that the only negative about this dics was the price, equivalent to 2 disc set price (he paid 38 eauros) for about a disc's worth of playing time. I agree, but note that it's not to hard to get this much cheaper than retail, - i got mine for 10 euros on an amazon.france marketplace site. If you can find it for even twenty euros, then i'd recommend it. B.

Post by nickc June 22, 2005 (2 of 5)
brenda said:

Audiofriend in his review thought that the only negative about this dics was the price, equivalent to 2 disc set price (he paid 38 eauros) for about a disc's worth of playing time. I agree, but note that it's not to hard to get this much cheaper than retail, - i got mine for 10 euros on an amazon.france marketplace site. If you can find it for even twenty euros, then i'd recommend it. B.

hi brenda
looks interesting! could you tell me what instruments are used instead of the violin/cello?
best wishes
nick

Post by brenda June 22, 2005 (3 of 5)
nickc said:could you tell me what instruments are used instead of the violin/cello?
dear nick,
one disc has the double concerto as published, the other has it arranged as a cello concerto, with the violin part re-assigned to upper strings on the solo cello and to violins. Aside from one or two moments when the orchestration sounds like Schoenberg's orch of the op. 25 quartet, it's pretty good. Both performances are fine. I got it very cheap on am.fr but it seems to be hard to get now. am.uk have it, but at full price.
best wishes, B

Post by seth June 22, 2005 (4 of 5)
brenda said:

Aside from one or two moments when the orchestration sounds like Schoenberg's orch of the op. 25 quartet, it's pretty good.

I was just listening to the Schoenberg's arrangement the other day. It's underrated, or at least it's not played enough. While it's thin in places, such as mimicking the piano part with the xylophone at times as if Schoenberg couldn't figure out what to do, it's so witty that Brahms surely would have approved. And that's what makes it works. It's not an academic assignment like so many arrangements, but actually has character that is unique to the orchestration.

Post by brenda June 23, 2005 (5 of 5)
seth said:I was just listening to the Schoenberg's arrangement.... day. While it's thin in places, such as mimicking the piano part with the xylophone at times as if Schoenberg couldn't figure out what to do, it's so witty that Brahms surely would have approved.
hi seth, know what you mean, it's really the xylophone bits and the liberties with the finale that irritate me on repeated listening to the Schoenberg arr. As a witty homage, it's great, but as a Brahms "arrangement", whilst it makes you listen to some sections afresh, it's less successful. The Garben arr. on the Wildner disc is an arrangement, and a pretty good one, but just once or twice Garden wants to let us know that he knows the Schoenberg, which i find a little distracting. regards, B

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