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Discussion: Mahler: Symphony No. 5 - Jansons

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Post by pgmdir September 11, 2009 (1 of 46)
I'm surprised that no one has discussed this release. I've had it for a while, and after listening to it and my others again-- and again, I've found that this has edged past my other versions. This is a wonderful performance and a fabulous recording.

I put it on this evening while looking at a book. Within minutes the book was down and my attention was totally focused on the music.

I have not been totally won over by other Mahlers by Jansons, but I have to say this has become my desert island favorite.

=Bill

Post by dcramer September 11, 2009 (2 of 46)
pgmdir said:

I'm surprised that no one has discussed this release. I've had it for a while, and after listening to it and my others again-- and again, I've found that this has edged past my other versions. This is a wonderful performance and a fabulous recording.

I put it on this evening while looking at a book. Within minutes the book was down and my attention was totally focused on the music.

I have not been totally won over by other Mahlers by Jansons, but I have to say this has become my desert island favorite.

=Bill

This looks very tempting, thanks for mentioning this recording. Is anyone familiar with the old Barbirolli performance on EMI? I know it's not the most highly rated performance of all time, but there's something ethereal about it that makes it my favorite, along with the "whooping" horns. My LP copy has a scratch that produces a loud click through most of the Adagietto so I've been looking for a modern recording on SACD and wondered how this performance compared or if there is another performance that would better fit Barbirolli's view of the symphony (timing, phrasing, etc.) Thanks!

Don

Post by Oakland September 11, 2009 (3 of 46)
pgmdir said:

I'm surprised that no one has discussed this release. I've had it for a while, and after listening to it and my others again-- and again, I've found that this has edged past my other versions. This is a wonderful performance and a fabulous recording.

I put it on this evening while looking at a book. Within minutes the book was down and my attention was totally focused on the music.

I have not been totally won over by other Mahlers by Jansons, but I have to say this has become my desert island favorite.

=Bill

That's exactly what happened to me prior to me writing my review. As I said: "Upon first hearing I was expecting no more than a routine leisurely listen but got much much more". I was just beginning the book "The Battle for America 2008". But I barely got past the preface when I became firmly fixed on this wonderful performance. Book deferred.

Robert C. Lang

Post by Peter September 12, 2009 (4 of 46)
dcramer said:

This looks very tempting, thanks for mentioning this recording. Is anyone familiar with the old Barbirolli performance on EMI? I know it's not the most highly rated performance of all time, but there's something ethereal about it that makes it my favorite, along with the "whooping" horns. My LP copy has a scratch that produces a loud click through most of the Adagietto so I've been looking for a modern recording on SACD and wondered how this performance compared or if there is another performance that would better fit Barbirolli's view of the symphony (timing, phrasing, etc.) Thanks!

Don

Well, firstly, it is one of the most highly rated performances of all time in some quarters, especially the Barbirolli Society, though in other quarters it is panned roundly. Those who don't like it say that those who do do so because they are chauvinistic Gramophone readers, of course.

Secondly, this Jansons recording will in no way substitute for it.

Get both, the newest JB CD has the horn fluff repaired, too!

Post by dcramer September 12, 2009 (5 of 46)
Peter said:

Well, firstly, it is one of the most highly rated performances of all time in some quarters, especially the Barbirolli Society, though in other quarters it is panned roundly. Those who don't like it say that those who do do so because they are chauvinistic Gramophone readers, of course.

Secondly, this Jansons recording will in no way substitute for it.

Get both, the newest JB CD has the horn fluff repaired, too!

LOL Advice taken and SACD ordered. By the way, I meant the "whooping" description to be a compliment about the enthusiasm shown by the horn section :-)

Post by seth September 12, 2009 (6 of 46)
pgmdir said:

I'm surprised that no one has discussed this release. I've had it for a while, and after listening to it and my others again-- and again, I've found that this has edged past my other versions. This is a wonderful performance and a fabulous recording.

I put it on this evening while looking at a book. Within minutes the book was down and my attention was totally focused on the music.

I have not been totally won over by other Mahlers by Jansons, but I have to say this has become my desert island favorite.

=Bill

I got it based on enthusiastic reccomendation from friends.

I find his conducting to be fussy and sluggish. He totally botches the coda with his dramatic pause. I'll stick with Dohnanyi, Levine, Bernstein and Gielen.

Post by pgmdir September 13, 2009 (7 of 46)
I have the Gielen, Barbirolli, Boulez, Bernstein (CBS), and the Jansons--which I was put off by on my initial listening. Gielen and Boulez are more my cup of tea. But as I mention in the intial post, something really grabbed me this last time.

As for the question of the Barbirolli-- There's no question that it is much beloved by many and I would not be without it.

There is a benefit in having multiple versions to discover something new about them. Or even to use as an antidote to "same-ol', same-ol'" At least that's my excuse for the absurd numbers of Mahler and Beethoven symphonies I have.

Post by seth September 13, 2009 (8 of 46)
pgmdir said:

As for the question of the Barbirolli-- There's no question that it is much beloved by many and I would not be without it.

In my opinion, this is one of the most overrated classical recordings of all-time. Maybe it was cutting edge when it first came out, but it has long been surpassed.

Post by mahlerei September 13, 2009 (9 of 46)
Zinman's M5 is one of the most satisfying I've heard in years. Well worth a listen. The Barbirolli was good for its time but I don't think it's worn well.

Post by pgmdir September 13, 2009 (10 of 46)
seth said:

In my opinion, this is one of the most overrated classical recordings of all-time. Maybe it was cutting edge when it first came out, but it has long been surpassed.

I don't disagree that it's been surpassed, but I'm glad I have it to return to once in a blue moon.

I also have the Zinman---I'd forgotten that. Not a good sign.

And that reminds me that one of the issues I have in amassing a larger collection of SACDs is the performances. I really like everything I've heard on CC, especially the Fischer conducted works. I am currently in love with the Beethovens on BIS. But I know that I've traded back far more than 50 % of the SACDs I've purchased over the years. I've gotten more enjoyment from the Szell Mahler 6 than most of the SACD's I've purchased over the years.

In the end, when one is sitting quietly with perhaps a glass of wine and listening---- it is the performance that counts.

Seth--- Do you have the Gielen box? I find that I tend to forget just how fine that set is because they're buried in that box. I think I'll put on his 5 right now

Bill

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