Thread: Why are we getting recent threads about DVD-Audio?

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Post by flyingdutchman March 5, 2008 (1 of 31)
This is a SACD site, not DVD-Audio, and quite frankly I'm getting tired of it. If you want to bring up DVD-Audio, go to quadraphonicquad.com or audio asylum. This site is for SACDs and SACDs only.

Post by Ear March 6, 2008 (2 of 31)
Well, as far as I am concerned SACD and DVD-A are rivals and I always find it interesting to read comparisons if material is released on both formats. Zeus has said something about the threads where DVD-A was advertised, but comparisons should be allowed imho. I just ignore threads I do not feel interested in. Second, there are at least a few here that are interested in multichannel music in general Why can't one be so gracious to give them a little space? They are happy, stay here instead of having to switch forums for every little discussion. I am a member of a Kate Bush Forum i.e. and of course, other music can be discussed as well.
BTW, most DVD-Audio threads had something to do with SACD one way ore the other, at least I had that feeling.

Post by dbmay75 March 6, 2008 (3 of 31)
flyingdutchman said:

This is a SACD site, not DVD-Audio, and quite frankly I'm getting tired of it. If you want to bring up DVD-Audio, go to quadraphonicquad.com or audio asylum. This site is for SACDs and SACDs only.

Dutch, this isn't the first time you've complained about DVD-Audio postings, but fortunately for you, there's a very simple cure to your diagnosis of DVD-Audioitis...don't read the damn posts!

There have been numerous posts regarding audio and video formats on this site and I haven't seen you complain about those, so what gives? In fact, didn't you contribute to the Blu-Ray and HD DVD discussions? I'm no Freud, but the very fact that you would post these remarks (and others that I won't bring up here) is a hint that you like confrontation.

What makes you tired is what makes myself and several others here very satisfied about DVD-A and again, as a reminder, you don't own this site. Until zeus decides to program a filter not to allow the words "DVD Audio" in the forum, we will continue to discuss it and it will continue to drive you mad - get used to it.

Post by flyingdutchman March 6, 2008 (4 of 31)
dbmay75 said:

Dutch, this isn't the first time you've complained about DVD-Audio postings, but fortunately for you, there's a very simple cure to your diagnosis of DVD-Audioitis...don't read the damn posts!

There have been numerous posts regarding audio and video formats on this site and I haven't seen you complain about those, so what gives? In fact, didn't you contribute to the Blu-Ray and HD DVD discussions? I'm no Freud, but the very fact that you would post these remarks (and others that I won't bring up here) is a hint that you like confrontation.

What makes you tired is what makes myself and several others here very satisfied about DVD-A and again, as a reminder, you don't own this site. Until zeus decides to program a filter not to allow the words "DVD Audio" in the forum, we will continue to discuss it and it will continue to drive you mad - get used to it.

For you and others needing a reading lesson, the site is called sa-cd.net, not sa-cdordvd-audio.net. Bluray is quite naturally discussed because that is where the next generation of hi-def will likely go and I, for one would like a player that incorporates sacd in its specs.

I did not come here to talk about or see threads dedicated to a failed format such as dvd-audio.

Post by dbmay75 March 6, 2008 (5 of 31)
flyingdutchman said:

For you and others needing a reading lesson, the site is called sa-cd.net, not sa-cdordvd-audio.net. Bluray is quite naturally discussed because that is where the next generation of hi-def will likely go and I, for one would like a player that incorporates sacd in its specs.

I did not come here to talk about or see threads dedicated to a failed format such as dvd-audio.

Dutch, due to the fact that you collect mostly classical music would be one reason not to incorporate DVD-A into your collection, but I don't think it's fair of you to discriminate DVD-A simply because Panasonic & friends didn't want to carbon copy what Sony & Philips was already doing with classical music. Popular music (rock, r&b, rap, metal, country) far exceeds classical music in terms of sales figures. As with any technological breakthrough, the idea is to make money and they made a lot more money selling Metallica and Santana and Sheryl Crow then they did Beethoven and Joshua Bell. For the record, I am NOT against classical music - I listen to it daily on the radio and hope to embrace it further through various SACD purchases, my first being "SeaScapes"

Regardless of how you may feel about it, Dutch, it is a hi-resolution, multichannel audio format and some albums on DVD-A were engineered much better than their Super Audio equivalents and vice versa. Besides, who wouldn't want to have music videos, interviews, lyrics or rare footage thrown in at no extra charge?

DVD-A is NOT a "failed" format because the titles that are out of print are highly sought after and people pay a hefty amount to obtain them. It is also NOT a "dead" format as certain titles were recently re-pressed due to high demand for those who weren't aware of it's presence when it was first released.

I apologize to you for speaking out of context, Dutch. For me, visiting sa-cd.net is a chance to learn, to explore, to inquire about the amazing audio technology that our lifetime has the opportunity to embrace. This is not to say that I will never use the words "DVD Audio" again on this site, but to appease both you and zeus, I will make the effort to place my DVD-A questions on stevehoffman.tv instead. While Hoffman's site is not as easy on the eyes as sa-cd.net, it is highly active, in all aspects of music.

Cheers,

Dan

Post by bryzmon March 6, 2008 (6 of 31)
My 2 cents, I enjoy reading the occasional DVD-Audio post here and there.

Post by Julien March 7, 2008 (7 of 31)
flyingdutchman said:

This is a SACD site, not DVD-Audio, and quite frankly I'm getting tired of it. If you want to bring up DVD-Audio, go to quadraphonicquad.com or audio asylum. This site is for SACDs and SACDs only.

I believe Dutchman's request should be ignored as well as Dutchman himself should ignore the posts he doesn't like just as we all do. Since DVD-audio is a "dead" format as you state, the occasional discussion on DVD-audio is certainly not a threat to this site.
I'll give you an example. I personally don't fancy high-rez format in low quality mch through Oppo/PS3 + receiver combos over high quality CD reproduction. And since the launch of the PS3 a big part of the users and the threads on this site have been about Oppo/PS3/receivers which is pretty dull to me and not flattering for a format that is supposed to be one of the ultimate high-rez formats on the market. BUT, even though it's not my cup of tea, all that is still very positive in a way and I do think that the idea of having great sound for the buck starting with a better high-rez format is very important. I personally want better, and it makes more and more discussions on this site pretty boring to me. But it still is about SACD and high-rez, so welcome. And there are still a lot of artistic discussions about music and recordings, in which I enjoy participating once in a while.
Anyway, why should we tolerate the occasional discussions about all the other formats but DVD-audio? Vinyl, reel-to-reel, cassette, CD, DVD, blu-ray and HDDVD (way more off topic on this site no?), and whatever has been brought on. There is no logic to it, and no need either. Don't forget that for half of the users on this site, multi-channel on high-rez, SACD or DVD-audio, will be prefered over stereo only SACD. No need to be worried for the health of this site over the occasional discussion.
My personal view is that this discussion can be ignored and closed. Anyway, if really some action is needed, as like Zeus pointed out about that guy promoting DVD-audio with financial purposes, I believe Zeus will know better than all of us what's good for this site. And it will not be about some cheap personal vendetta.

Post by FunkyMonkey March 7, 2008 (8 of 31)
Nobody buy Missy Elliot's DVD-Audio of So Addictive. The CD is excellent, but the DVD-A has all the swear words cut out. How frickin' weird.

Post by Ear March 7, 2008 (9 of 31)
flyingdutchman said:

For you and others needing a reading lesson, the site is called sa-cd.net, not sa-cdordvd-audio.net. Bluray is quite naturally discussed because that is where the next generation of hi-def will likely go and I, for one would like a player that incorporates sacd in its specs.

I did not come here to talk about or see threads dedicated to a failed format such as dvd-audio.

This is what makes me very angry. You are interested in something and therefor it has a right to exist here. You, for some reason dislike DVD-Audio and so nobody is allowed to discuss it here? I don't think so. If your followed your argumentation that this site is not called SACD and DVD Audio .net you should be against everything that is not SACD, because it is not called SACD and Blu Ray and HDDVD. net. This is ridiculous. You sound like a bitter old man, I am sorry!

Post by flyingdutchman March 7, 2008 (10 of 31)
Ear said:

This is what makes me very angry. You are interested in something and therefor it has a right to exist here. You, for some reason dislike DVD-Audio and so nobody is allowed to discuss it here? I don't think so. If your followed your argumentation that this site is not called SACD and DVD Audio .net you should be against everything that is not SACD, because it is not called SACD and Blu Ray and HDDVD. net. This is ridiculous. You sound like a bitter old man, I am sorry!

You sound like someone who has been here all of 6 months and doesn't realize why this site exists. We did not come here to make this another audioasylum to talk about dvd-audio or quadrophonicquad or even stevehoffman where all formats are discussed, and that is why it is called sa-cd.net. Others here who have contributed to this site have been here for years talking about SACD. This is what this site is known for and has been known for for just about 6 years.

Bluray is discussed because it is a natural discussion stemming from most people's concern that sacd somehow be a part of the bluray spec. DVD-Audio was always a competing format with SACD and its fanatics have always been about divisiveness and it is due to their divisiveness that SACD has struggled all this time.

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