Thread: New Everest SACD Releases in February

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Post by SACD Hunter February 6, 2014 (21 of 34)
pacwin said:

Are you sure?...

In reply to my enquiry about Everest SACDs, King International wrote, "converted to DSD directly from analog tape".

Post by hiredfox February 6, 2014 (22 of 34)
SACD Hunter said:

In reply to my enquiry about Everest SACDs, King International wrote, "converted to DSD directly from analog tape".

The answer that many of us wanted, let's hope it's true.

Post by Lunna February 6, 2014 (23 of 34)
pacwin said:

Are you sure?. All the Everests are up on download sites since last year (nearly 50 volumes) as PCM Files. Algorithmix software has a product called "Sound Laundry" and "easyreNOVAtor". Shades of EMI SACD reissues.??

This description is the same as given out on the download pdf files apparently.
http://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/t.mpl?f=pcaudio&m=129223

Countdown Media is a licensing subsidiary of BMG. The site lists this asset. Vast numbers of the Everests are also available from places like Amazon on demand as CD-R.

see also here:

http://www.classicrecords.com/item.cfm?item=HDAD%202017-PLUS

Neverheless I am going to try a couple out. Sure as eggs in a year or two Analogue Productions will announce their own reissue line in "proper" DSD.

Incidentally, For those not paying attention to RBCD anymore, Volume 2 of Living Stereo Box Set is in the wild for about a pound a disk. So one shiny premium priced Everest or a box of 60 Living Stereos?

To what extent do the RCA living stereo discs in box 2 overlap with their previously issued hybrid SACDs? Am I mistaken in thinking box 1 essentially duplicated the 54 or so SACDs, and that this new set brings us something new (old)?

Post by rammiepie February 6, 2014 (24 of 34)
Lunna said:

To what extent do the RCA living stereo discs in box 2 overlap with their previously issued hybrid SACDs? Am I mistaken in thinking box 1 essentially duplicated the 54 or so SACDs, and that this new set brings us something new (old)?

Lunna, if you access the AmazonUK website, the contents of Set II are listed in the comment section on the bottom.......ALL 60 discs.

I'm sure there might be SOME duplicates, buy, hey, for $1.30 per RBCD delivered.........I was just wondering if they were DSD mastered from the original analogue tapes.......so far, no luck in ascertaining my query.

Post by Links February 7, 2014 (25 of 34)
sorry wrong thread

Post by Botanico92007 February 12, 2014 (26 of 34)
I always understood that all of the classical recordings done when Belock was still with the company were done on 35mm film recorders. Yet only 3 of the 5 new releases show mastering from the 35mm tapes. Apparently the other two are mastered from the normally recorded backup tapes. I don't consider this a significant problem, but the Grofe recording mentions "digital restoration," which may indicate damage to the original tape.

I have all the Classic Records Everest DVD-Audio discs. All were mastered from the 35mm tapes. A number of them have momentary pitch sags in the music. Lt. Kije is one of these. It will be interesting to see if the King release has the same problem. Classic Records never acknowledged the problem, although the problem was discussed on other forums.

I have 3 of the 5 new releases on 2-track tapes from the 1958-1959 period. As best as I can understand the technical notes with the tapes, the transfers were not done from the 35mm master. In fact 35mm tape recording isn't even mentioned, so maybe they were. Who knows? Still these 2-track tapes are hard to beat, and we're talking about commercial tapes that are 55 years old!

Everest licensed its recording to World Record Club in Great Britain, and some of the titles were released there on 2-track tapes in the early 1960s. The transfers were done by EMI, which issued its own 2-track tapes. I have one title, the Goossens Scheherazade, on both Everest and WRC issues. They sound slightly different. The WRC was surely done from a submaster, which may account for the difference.

"The Little Train of Caipira" doesn't appear on the first SACD issues. King has decided to follow the LP format, so SDBR-3041 may come later. The Classic Records issue has a small pitch sag in "Little Train" and another in "Wheat Dance" from the Estancia Suite.

I hope Countdown Media is aware of the pitfalls. I also hope we get US release of these SACDs. I'm eager to hear the reaction of anyone who orders from Japan. I'm thinking of ordering one or two to test the waters.

Post by classicrecordings February 12, 2014 (27 of 34)
^

Great to see that there are others like me who are still into 2 track tapes.

Post by hiredfox February 13, 2014 (28 of 34)
classicrecordings said:

^

Great to see that there are others like me who are still into 2 track tapes.

Hi Fi encompasses a very broad church and is the better for it. It's a pity that recording engineers are not using analogue tape in parallel with their digital recording gear. Who knows what the future holds in terms of transcribing recordings; we may one day regret yet again having sold out our heritage cheaply to a convenient but transient flawed belief.

Post by rammiepie February 13, 2014 (29 of 34)
hiredfox said:

Hi Fi encompasses a very broad church and is the better for it. It's a pity that recording engineers are not using analogue tape in parallel with their digital recording gear. Who knows what the future holds in terms of transcribing recordings; we may one day regret yet again having sold out our heritage cheaply to a convenient but transient flawed belief.

As wonderful as Open Reel/Analogue is, hiredfox, it's still not an archival storage medium and is suspectible to wear and tear/print through, stretching and other anomalies.

Of course, the newer home Open Reel Players are miles ahead of what we used in the day to play our Open Reel Tapes but the few companies producing commercial Open Reels today are charging a $200 premium for the privilege (2 channel of course).

Post by Botanico92007 February 13, 2014 (30 of 34)
rammiepie said:

As wonderful as Open Reel/Analogue is, hiredfox, it's still not an archival storage medium and is suspectible to wear and tear/print through, stretching and other anomalies.

The question of an archival storage medium is a dilemma. There was a rush to convert older media to a digital medium, which proved to be premature with improvements of higher sampling rates, longer bit length, and cheaper storage. Even today with the shifting sands of digital standards the choice is not easy. The long-term stability of digital storage is an open question. It may be that digital information will fade into oblivion after 50 or 100 years.

Ironically the one proven medium is the vinyl or shellac record. The problem is inherent noise and limitations of the original recording, not stability. The important thing is to not trash the original recording medium too quickly. Lucky for us that tape formulations from the 1950s and early 1960s have proved to be relatively stable over 50 years.

My opinion is that Corroboree is the best of the Everest recordings. The Vanguard SACD used the ½ inch analog tape, and Classic Records never issued it using the 35mm master. Unfortunately it appears the 35mm master tape is unusable. The King issue has "digital restoration." Does this necessitate a conversion to PCM to use the software and then to DSD?

Has anyone ordered from Japan? The EMI Japan website says the release date is Feb. 20.

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