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Discussion: Yes: High Vibration - SACD box

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Post by Bazcrim September 17, 2013 (11 of 76)
I too am waiting for the Wilson mix, but have bitten the bullet anyway and my SACD box set has just been shipped from Japan.

Post by Kveld-Úlfr September 17, 2013 (12 of 76)
sylvian said:

I do not own/heard John Mayer but I do have listened to Schoolboys in Disgrace by the Kinks, and I utterly disagree with the dynamic assesment 8/8/9.
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Especially when you are referring to CTTE, the Schoolboys sound much much better and not so flat as CTTE does.

I agree that this dynamics score is very strange. I too own The Kinks: Schoolboys In Disgrace and I strongly disagree with this score. Something must have been wrong with the analyzing.
And yes, it sounds way better than Seteve Hoffman's Yes: Close to the Edge.

Post by sylvian September 17, 2013 (13 of 76)
Just to complete the thred concerning yes and DR: http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/details.php?id=43569

What I have found interesting is the fact that quieter tracks has better dynamics than the other ones.....it is pretty clear with RED book but I have not found any clue for Scarlet one.

Post by hooperthom September 17, 2013 (14 of 76)
A question: DR rating is taking the softest and the loudest sound from music, so if a song doesn't vary much from the softest to the loudest the DR rating would be on the low side but that doesn't make that sound bad. Does it?

Post by Kveld-Úlfr September 17, 2013 (15 of 76)
hooperthom said:

A question: DR rating is taking the softest and the loudest sound from music, so if a song doesn't vary much from the softest to the loudest the DR rating would be on the low side but that doesn't make that sound bad. Does it?

Very pertinent remark. Logic says you're right.

There are also some recordings without much variations, comprising sparse, sudden and fast transient on a single period or half a period, which appear as a swift curve going sky high if you edit the track with an editor software. You can see this phenomenon mostly on old CDs from the 80's or early 90's, and I'm pretty sure it can increase a DR score even though a track is constant.

Post by hooperthom September 17, 2013 (16 of 76)
Kveld-Úlfr said:

Very pertinent remark. Logic says you're right.

There are also some recordings without much variations, comprising sparse, sudden and fast transient on a single period or half a period, which appear as a swift curve going sky high if you edit the track with an editor software. You can see this phenomenon mostly on old CDs from the 80's or early 90's, and I'm pretty sure it can increase a DR score even though a track is constant.

I use the DR rating as a reference but I let my ear judge the sound of the recording. If it sounds good to me its all good.

Post by benvandyk September 17, 2013 (17 of 76)
hooperthom said:

A question: DR rating is taking the softest and the loudest sound from music, so if a song doesn't vary much from the softest to the loudest the DR rating would be on the low side but that doesn't make that sound bad. Does it?

before I new about dr scores 1 disc was so loud and crappy sounding id buy another hoping for better sound. it was recorded the same. motley crue saints of la.... the older ones sound better with a lower score. but I have some country cds with merana lambert & carrie under wood with the higher scores but they sound fine

Post by Kveld-Úlfr September 17, 2013 (18 of 76)
hooperthom said:

I use the DR rating as a reference but I let my ear judge the sound of the recording. If it sounds good to me its all good.

Basically that's the way to go. Thanks for reminding this. It is true that the temptation of figures and specs can blind us too often.

Post by sylvian September 17, 2013 (19 of 76)
Still it leaves me too confused to beleive just in one source (DR) so I would rather believe my own senses = if i do not face any ear fatigue with listening to any particular release in one go, i am fine.

Post by Compression Must Die September 18, 2013 (20 of 76)
Today is the release date for this...I have no hopes that it'll be worth having. But I would certainly be interested in how someone brave enough to buy this thinks it sounds. :-D

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